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What belongs here?Edit

This discussion began on User_talk:Fritzophrenic when User:Fritzophrenic changed the category of 503 PuTTY numeric keypad mappings from Category:Windows to Category:Integration.

Hi Fritzophrenic - I agree with your edit summary that 'I certainly wouldn't look for a PuTTY tip under "Windows"'. One reason I haven't done much with categories is that I can't get my head around them. Should any tip that works only in Windows be in Category:Windows? If so, there might be too many tips for it to be useful. If not, what is the category for?

So, I am not disagreeing with your change of the category, but I'm not really agreeing either. I'm just expressing my confusion<g>. --JohnBeckett 04:24, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Category:Windows states that it is for "tips about using Vim with Microsoft Windows." That's pretty vague, but since it is a subcategory of Category:Integration, which is "about the integration of Vim with other programs, desktops, operating systems, etc." I view Category:Windows as a place for tips specifically about making Vim "play nice" with the Windows operating system. Tips that definitely belong in this category are tips such as:

There are other tips here that are somewhat questionable, because they are about integrating with Windows-only applications like Visual Studio, or are mostly useful in Windows but would work elsewhere, such as:

Tips that probably don't belong at all (in my opinion) are tips like:

Of course, these are by no means exhaustive lists. The Category:Windows category is pretty full, and probably needs some culling.

For the PuTTY tips, and for many of the xterm, SecureCRT, etc. tips, I've been thinking about creating a "Terminals" category or something alike under Category:Integration.

So, long story short, I do NOT think that Category:Windows should include every tip that only works in Windows. However, I DO think that most tips of this nature will probably be about making Vim work well in Windows and will therefore belong here. I think that tips about Windows-only applications should go either in Category:Integration or some subcategory that makes more sense, and keep Category:Windows for tips about OS integration.

Anyway, I've babbled enough - do you think we should move this to the mailing list, invite input here, or maybe put it on Category_talk:Windows?

--Fritzophrenic 16:08, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

I see what you mean. I can't bring myself to totally agree because that would imply some degree of comprehension of the issues, and I still plead confusion. A "Terminals" category does sound better than having putty tips under Windows. And yes, if you feel inclined, please move this discussion to Category_talk:Windows. If you feel adventurous, you could change the text on Category:Windows. You might need to use the extra parameter discussed on Template:CatInfo.

--JohnBeckett 23:28, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

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